" And if you won't vote Obama, who the hell is left? So people are going for McCain. It is nutz."

No, it's not at all nuts. We had to sit and watch at the RBC meeting as the corrupt Chicago voter fraud/election fixing machine stole votes from Hillary and gave he nomination to Obama. We watched caucus fraud, and attempted voter fraud in many other states. As someone who believes in both democracy and the Democratic party, I cannot countenance the takeover of my party by it's most corrupt wing. Especially not when both Houses of Congress will be controlled by the Democratic Party. There will be no oversight, no watchdog, no enforcement against our own, and that is the stuff of nightmares for our democracy. They could fix elections for the indefinite future, and then, if you disagree with them, you are silenced and destroyed, the way Hillary was.

They couldn't control Hillary, so they destroyed her and have anointed someone they can control, who has no experience, hasn't done anything important in his entire political career, has no political capital of his own, and is completely dependent on them.  They will pull his strings and he will do what they say.

Don't think for a minute that any of us prefer John McCain, that's bullshit. But we cannot allow the destruction of our democracy by our own party's hand, and we will do everything necessary to see that these thugs do not take over our party. If there is no Democratic party we can believe in, then there is no hope left. Our only choice is to fight.

Drivel about the policy positions of Obama vs. McCain is irrelevant, you are wasting your time discussing it. The Democratic fish is rotten at the head, and the stench permeates all the rest. McCain getting in is the collateral damage we will have to tolerate.