The race card is played and it's OK

I'm amazed. There's no accountability when it comes to the Obama campaign. They, get away with playing the race card with no questions asked. Now, I'm not a fan of John McCain but the following comment is totally out of line in my opinion.

In an interview with National Journal's Linda Douglass, meanwhile, Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, said that race won't be a problem for Obama in November.

Why? Because "the vast, vast majority of voters who would not vote for Barack Obama in November based on race are probably firmly in John McCain's camp already," according to Plouffe.

FYI Obama supporters; Informing the media that "racists are firmly in McCain's camp" is playing the race card. Where's your outrage Obama supporters?



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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 0)

Why should I be outraged?  There is still racism in this country, no?


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by politicsmatters on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:18:49 PM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 2)

Democrats should be proud that we aren't the party that coddles racists.  If someone refuses to vote for a candidate based on race they are certainly no Democrat, and already in McCain's camp.

Plouffe is NOT saying that everyone who votes against Obama is a racist, he is saying that anyone who would vote against him because of race is not going to be there for us in November regardless of who we nominate.


by Skaje on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:37:32 PM EST
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Yeah, the diarist is confused. (none / 0)


by dystopianfuturetoday on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:54:23 PM EST
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Re: Yeah, the diarist is confused. (none / 0)

VERY


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:18:40 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Why don't you explain it?  From your tone I suspect you already have an answer in your mind, why don't you share it?


by Skaje on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 03:59:25 AM EST
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What's the problem here? (2.00 / 2)

Gee, isn't that what most people consider the republican party to be? A group of racists? Unfortunately, this primary season we are seeing the dixicrats in the democratic party and it is not pretty.


by regina1983 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:19:29 PM EST

Re: What's the problem here? (none / 0)

"Unfortunately, this primary season we are seeing the dixicrats in the democratic party and it is not pretty.

That's too funny. What happened to "unity" "the candidate that can bring people together"....just hype isn't it? Another politician.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:47:24 PM EST
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Re: What's the problem here? (none / 0)

MLK couldn't turn racists into non-racists. You expect Obama to be able to do that? Hehehe


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:59:30 PM EST
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Re: What's the problem here? (none / 0)

It's a good thing Obama doesn't follow your lead.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:05:33 PM EST
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Re: What's the problem here? (none / 0)

Because if he did he wouldn't be able to turn racists into non-racists?

How about we get John McCain?!


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:06:47 PM EST
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Re: What's the problem here? (none / 0)

How do you plan to "get John McCain?" Accuse him of being racist? No evidence, unfounded.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:28:35 PM EST
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Re: What's the problem here? (none / 0)

Well actually there is evidence that John McCain is a racist as his history with MLK and civil rights issues shows but that's not what I meant.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:36:31 PM EST
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Re: What's the problem here? (none / 0)

Where did ya go? I'm still waiting for your answer.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:15:06 PM EST
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LMFAO (2.00 / 1)

The hypocrisy is unbelievable.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:22:29 PM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 1)

Is it a club, a spade, or a heart?  And is it trump?  Just curious....


by username2 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:25:32 PM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (1.66 / 3)

right, people voting not for Obama are all racists.  I said it last week - Obama's camp keeps putting this bull shit artist talking point and it will turn off the majority of Americans.

sure, racism exists.  I don't think anyone thinks it doesn't.  But to smear everyone who won't vote for Obama is a racist is insulting.


by colebiancardi on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:26:25 PM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 1)

right, people voting not for Obama are all racists.

Sheesh.  Where does he say that all people that didn't vote for Obama are racists?  

Saying that some people didn't vote for him because of race is a fact.  Saying that most of them are probably McCain supporters is very likely.

You seem to have a problem with logic.  Maybe we can draw you some of those logic 101 circles.



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by map on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:45:47 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

heh.  Read the quote again from the Obama campaign:

"the vast, vast majority of voters who would not vote for Barack Obama in November based on race are probably firmly in John McCain's camp already,

the VAST, VAST majority of voters who will not vote for Obama.....


by colebiancardi on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:46:45 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 1)

the vast, vast majority of voters who would not vote for Barack Obama in November based on race

Seriously, colebiancardi... Wake up.


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by map on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:04:06 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

again, basing their vote totally on racism.  The exit polls ask a lot of questions, that is just one of them.  


by colebiancardi on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:06:53 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Wow.  That was weak.  You started off claiming he said people not voting for Obama are all racists.  He did not come close to saying that; quite the opposite.  Can't you just admit that you were wrong?  



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by map on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:11:20 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

that statement he made was wrong.  You can defend it all you want.

look, I've heard it all from Obama supporters about how non-Obama supporters are racists.  I was repeating their line - next time I will put my /snark tag in there.


by colebiancardi on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:18:25 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

The statement he made was true.  People that won't vote for Obama based on race are probably Republicans.  It was a stupid thing to say politically, but it was true.  It wasn't close to what you claimed, and if you were just being snarky, you sure went a long way trying to defend your initial comment.



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by map on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:24:08 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

There are racists supporting every candidate. Suggesting that most are in McCain's camp is an assumption without data to back it up. Unless you have stats to prove otherwise; IMO, you shouldn't even go there.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:42:20 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Uh. So when Democrats say that the GOP is using the immigration issue to gin up votes because their voters are xenophobic racists we shouldn't be doing that?


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:16:28 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 4)

It's been shoved down our throats by the media and Obama's surrogates for the last few months that anybody who doesn't support Obama is a racist.  I don't know about the rest of Hillary's supporters, but I'm pretty sick of being considered a racist, especially when I'm a minority myself.  And this whole myth the media runs with that Hillary only gets the votes of poor, white, uneducatd, country folk is ridiculous.  She has the more diverse base, she wins among Hispanics, Asians, Jews, etc.  Obama's campaign has constantly made race an issue while accusing others of racism, and I've had enough of it.


by musicpvm on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:27:07 PM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Agreed.


(can you sing me the song of your lifetime?)/i'll sing for my family as hard as i swing--hwm, blackjaw
by lurch nobody on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:59:42 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

This seems like a mistake in message from the Obama campaign, so hinged on "unity", yet the insinuation that Republicans in general are racist seems a bit unhinged from me. The message of unity is in direct conflict with this message that Ploffe sent out--and certainly wasn't nessessary. I think that if we want to make ourselves more accesiable to mainstream Americans and rural Americans, branding GOP'ers who like McCain as racists is not the way to go about it. Sounds like more typical elitism today...


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:30:43 PM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 2)

you've got it backwards, he's not saying all McCain voters are racist, he's saying racist voters support McCain.  It's like a Venn diagram, racists are the smaller circle within the larger McCain supporters circle.  The point being, if anyone refuses to vote for candidate based on race they are probably the type of person who refuses to vote for any Democrat.  I don't disagree with that.


by Skaje on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:34:56 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

I don't disagree with how you interpret the message but the question is how would the GOP use this message and interpret it to the American people? They have proven far more effective in message making than we have and currently, with the way the Obama campaign has slipped up with staying on message, the GOP is still above them as well. I just don't think comments like this are nessesary and they give GOP'ers more ammo for Dems being "out of touch".


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:48:42 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Yeah the GOP knows that this comment shows that he's in touch with what the GOP is about.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 01:16:49 AM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 2)

It's true.  The racists are in McCain's camp.  If they refuse to vote for Obama based on race they probably wouldn't vote for any Democrat.  That's not playing the race card, that's just reality.  Curious why you choose to take offense.


by Skaje on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:33:00 PM EST

"It's true" (2.00 / 0)

racists are in Clinton's camp, McCain's camp AND Obama's camp. The Obama campaign are playing a loser game...with continuing accusations, they lose, if not in the primary, in the GE.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:40:37 PM EST
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Blacks vote for whites isn't racism (none / 0)

Try again.

Blacks have always had to vote for whites (especially if they were the only candidate choices).

Certain whites have never had to vote for blacks.  Now if they're faced with a choice, CERTAIN whites will not vote for a perosn of color.

That's the dynamic and how you should distinguish between comments on black and white voting patterns.


by Regenman on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:01:46 PM EST
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the recent Wright Controversy (interview) (none / 0)

IS NO CONTROVERSY -

Its solidifying his AA support in NC.

But maybe at the expense of Indiana


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:34:02 PM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 2)

That racists are unlikely to vote for Barack Obama doesn't really strike me as a grand revelation.


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:40:16 PM EST

i hope this was a joke (none / 0)

this is just ASKING to lose this November. You can't lump racists and a Presidential candidate together, unless you are Jonnie Cochran


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:41:45 PM EST

Re: i hope this was a joke (none / 0)

The Obama campaign did just that; lumped racists and a presidential candidate together. I don't see backlash; therefore, I'm assuming Obama and his campaign get a free pass....again.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:46:36 PM EST
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Bobby Jindal is our best hope (none / 0)

because Obama might incite white backlash to McCain, McCain putting Bob Jindal on his ticket my suppress some of the white backlash, or even drive some back to the Democrats. Machievellian, YES IT IS, but this is election time. I have nothing against Indians, but these racists who David Plouffe says may go to McCain may dislike Indians more than blacks


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:01:15 PM EST
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Well, it just happened (none / 0)

This is the start, maybe?

I just find it profoundly unethical and undemocratic to level such serious, poisonous accusations at broad groups of American voters.  Some unity and hope based campaign this has turned out to be.  You know what, lots of people are racist in lots of complicated ways.  Some of them are blue collar.  Plenty of them are white collar.  Racist or non racist, they all need decent (equal) pay for work, good benefits, and health care, and to be able to afford a home and to send their kids to college.  Aren't those the kinds of things the Democratic Party is supposed to care about?  On principle?  For everyone?


by daria g on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 12:54:14 AM EST
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Is you playing the race card O.K. (2.00 / 2)

And what, dear diarist, are you doing with this diary, other then playing the race card? By pretending to be concerned, I guess that would make you a concern troll.


by venician on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:45:57 PM EST

Re: Is you playing the race card O.K. (none / 0)

I'm a troll because I quoted an actual article? That's ridiculous.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:47:31 PM EST
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Re: Is you playing the race card O.K. (none / 0)

I said you were a concern troll. The premise of your diary is that you're concerned about the race card being played by Obama. From your past comments you could care less what Obama supporters think about our candidate. You just want to bring up the issue of race. Why are you so "concernd" when you don't even support Obama?


by venician on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:02:08 PM EST
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Re: Is you playing the race card O.K. (none / 0)

I'm not concerned about Obama, I never said I was.

I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the Obama campaign. The fact that it makes you angry is not my problem.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:29:30 PM EST
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Really.... (none / 0)

If you don't like a subject, you really shouldn't accuse a person of being a troll.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:48:58 PM EST
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Please define "race card". (2.00 / 1)


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:46:29 PM EST

Re: Please define "race card". (none / 0)

Playing the race card - A person (or politician) using the issue of race or racism against another person for political or personal gain.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:53:15 PM EST
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Re: Please define "race card". (none / 0)

What political gain is there by saying Republicans have some racists?


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:31:30 PM EST
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Re: Please define "race card". (none / 0)

You still here?


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:02:30 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 1)

(1) There is at least some truth to it.

(2) It's a message that Democrats have been trying to sell for a while ("Southern strategy," etc.).

(3) Despite all that, I don't think it's a productive message to come from a Presidential campaign.  It's a good message for academics, campaign consultants, and possible congresspersons, especially representatives who reside in districts that let them get away with saying things like that.

But the President is supposed to be one President for one country.  Statements like that can be pretty offensive to Republicans.

Presidents have a tough balancing act to pull: as a Democrat, I want my Democratic Presidents to kick some Republican ass--but as an American, I want every President to be able to reach across the aisle and form some kind of rough consensus on important issues, especially the ones where cooperation is needed.  Usually the best approach comes from soft talk and carrying a big stick.  Use the stick when you have to get things done, but use soft talk as much as you can.

Now this isn't nearly as bad as Obama saying it himself, but it does come from the top of the campaign.  It's not a plus.


by Trickster on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:57:04 PM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

I agree with everything you said.  The campaign needs to stop talking about this stuff, or at least do a much much better job of framing the issue.



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by map on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:07:15 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Agreed.  Race may belp BO in the primaries but in the GE if his campaign plays the race card it will back fire.  McCain will use that just like the press used bitter and wright to brand BO and it will cost him even more reagan dems.

david


by giusd on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:07:51 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

I believe that Dems have said that the GOP is the home of the racist vote before. Never have I heard that it's a problem for us to say so.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:17:58 PM EST
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Re: Its their MO (none / 0)

Gee Gredel, so now you KNOW Wright is a racist? Because you've read everyone of his sermons, talked to him personally and know his views and have attend his church?  That's like me calling Bill a racist based only on a few comments he's made in public.


by venician on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:14:23 PM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

This resonates with Axelrod's quote that working-class white Americans aren't worth fighting for anyway, because they sometimes vote Republican.

These guys are normally very sharp about their talking points, and it surprises me that they are giving so much ammunition to the "arrogant" and "out of touch" memes.


by bobbank on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:57:51 PM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Saying that the racists are already in the GOP hurts them in the GE how?


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:01:59 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 1)

I like you better when you pretend to be rational.


by bobbank on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:18:20 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 1)

I must have missed the rational side.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:21:03 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

So you're here but you can't even answer a simple question about your post. You didn't think this through did you?


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:27:37 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

I answered your question...go back.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:29:48 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

This question:

"What political gain is there by saying Republicans have some racists?"


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:37:20 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

In this particular situation, it gives the perception that McCain is a racist.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:39:49 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

It does? How so? I don't see McCain mentioned at all. Just the GOP which we know is the party that most of the racists ran to after the 1964 Civil Rights Act was signed.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:51:10 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

And that's OK to deploy at will, as a political strategy, whether the target is deserving or not?


by daria g on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 12:47:23 AM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Though your concern for Sen. McCain is admirable there is no mention of McCain. The racists, for the most part, left the Democratic party after the 1964 civil rights movement. This is both historical fact and common knowledge.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 01:10:56 AM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Seeing that Dems call out the GOP for its bigotry all of the time I don't see why this is different but perhaps you can explain how.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:26:45 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

You may; I don't.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:30:56 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

I may you don't what?


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:35:07 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

"Dems call out the GOP for its bigotry all of the time"


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:36:46 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Oh. That's too bad then. Everyone should be for civil and human rights and call the  GOP on their hatred.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:38:18 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Generalizing and calling all republicans racists is a problem. I have no problem calling out an individual if there's proof...no matter what the party affiliation is.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:45:36 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Well as no one said "all" there doesn't seem to be a problem then.  


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:49:07 PM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

When you generalize, it's like accusing all.


by soyousay on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 12:01:14 AM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

His words were accurate not a generalization.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 12:39:12 AM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

The simple fact is: I find your non-sequiturs boring, and your strawmans uncreative.

Your implication that the 15,340,550 people who voted for Hillary only did so because they are racist is nothing more than foolish race-baiting prattle.  Should we conclude that the ~90% of African Americans that vote Obama are racists too?  How does this help?

To the extent your candidate's strategists buy into that nonsense, it only serves to undermine their efforts.  As always, I leave the last word for you.


by bobbank on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 12:03:12 AM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

What? He was talking about the GOP. You in the GOP?


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 01:15:40 AM EST
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Re: Its their MO (none / 0)

Calling Republicans racist is their MO? Ok. I thought Dems agreed with that.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:01:19 PM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 1)

I've got to wonder where some of you knuckleheads have been the last 50 years; You certainly haven't been paying attention to American politics. Let's take a look at what Plouffe said:

the vast, vast majority of voters who would not vote for Barack Obama in November based on race are probably firmly in John McCain's camp already

Now, if any of you had any understanding of what's transpired since the Civil Rights Movement, you'd know that that's a huge "Duh!" The "solid" Democratic South, a region where the number of Republican representatives could once be counted on one hand has been dominated by the Republican Party for several decades now. It's been a huge part of the Republican Party's electoral success since 1964 -- the last year, by the way, that the Democratic Party succeeded in winning a majority of the white vote. Coincidence? I think not. Ronald Reagan understood this when he talked about "welfare queens" and gave speeches about "state's rights" in Philadelphia, Mississippi. It's what allowed him to appeal to older working-class whites (especially Catholics) in parts of the industrial East and Midwest. These so-called "Reagan Democrats," which now form a not-insignificant portion of Senator Clinton's coalition and are celebrated on this website to no end, were then and are now motivated in no small part by issues of race. Thankfully, the number of "Reagan Democrats" (and "Nixon Democrats," for that matter) is small and continues to shrink. The majority of these folks have either died or become Republicans. As a result of this fact and the Republicans' contemporary control of the South, the Republican Party has become home to a decent number of unreconstructed racists.

From an article in the Washington Post:

Jon Krosnick, a psychologist and political scientist at Stanford University, who independently assessed the studies, said it remains to be seen how significant the correlation is between racial bias and political affiliation.

For example, he said, the study could not tell whether racial bias was a better predictor of voting preference than, say, policy preferences on gun control or abortion. But while those issues would be addressed in subsequent studies -- Krosnick plans to get random groups of future voters to take the psychological tests and discuss their policy preferences -- he said the basic correlation was not in doubt.

"If anyone in Washington is skeptical about these findings, they are in denial," he said. "We have 50 years of evidence that racial prejudice predicts voting. Republicans are supported by whites with prejudice against blacks. If people say, 'This takes me aback,' they are ignoring a huge volume of research."



by RP McMurphy on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:40:30 PM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Science is not OK. I saw IAT  findings being shared when the whole "typical" flap occurred and the people sharing the results were  troll rated out of existence.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 01:14:00 AM EST
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Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

Generalizing and calling all republicans racists is a problem. I have no problem calling out an individual if there's proof...no matter what the party affiliation is.


by soyousay on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:45:01 PM EST

Well, Obama just lost an important primary (none / 0)

Therefore, time to find a bunch of people to call racist.


by daria g on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 12:48:48 AM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (2.00 / 1)

Generalizing and calling all republicans racists is a problem. I have no problem calling out an individual if there's proof...no matter what the party affiliation is.

Let me try to explain this to you. All square are quadrilaterals, but not all quadrilaterals are squares. In this case, David Plouffe is arguing (correctly, I might note) that the vast majority of people who won't vote for Barack Obama because of his race are Republicans and will be supporting John McCain. This does not mean that the vast majority of the people supporting John McCain are racists. Do you understand the logical fallacy inherent in argument?  


by RP McMurphy on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 12:58:48 AM EST

Re: The race card is played and it's OK (none / 0)

That should read "your" argument. Sorry.


by RP McMurphy on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 12:59:36 AM EST
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unbelievably obtuse! (1.33 / 3)

now just because we don't vote for Obama, we are racists and in John McCain's camp?  What, he doesn't need anybody?  Did he just throw half the democratic party under the bus?


by 4justice on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 02:12:23 AM EST

Re: unbelievably obtuse! (none / 0)

Apparently he doesn't understand that in order to win you need a majority. :D


by soyousay on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:58:23 AM EST
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Re: unbelievably obtuse! (none / 0)

You are unable to read. He said no such thing.

That's your own problem, not the problem of Obama's campaign.


by Aris Katsaris on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:24:09 AM EST
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