MyDD :: VP advisor needs to go

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:45:58 PM EST
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Did you choose KB to advise you?

FYI; Johnson doesn't represent change.

John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.

Neither do you.

by ihaveseenenough on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:01:55 PM EST
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by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:05:07 PM EST
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If Obama keeps hiring people like Johnson; either does he.

John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.

I hate to disappoint you, but over the course of the next 4-8 years, Obama is going to hire people who have been in Washington for more than 10 minutes.

You may not like all of them.

You may not like all of their friends, and their friends' friends.

If you two-three degrees of separation everyone, you're going to run yourself ragged.

by ihaveseenenough on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:12:03 PM EST
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by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:13:21 PM EST
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I think Obama needs to deal with this now ;-)

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

You sound very concerned.

by politicsmatters on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:16:21 PM EST
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by JoeW on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:35:20 PM EST
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soyousay has one goal in mind.

And it is not to elect Barack Obama.

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:48:40 PM EST
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I openly admit that I don't care for Obama but if I really wanted to contribute to "not getting Obama elected," I'd vote McCain. That's not my plan.

Paulite? n/t (none / 0)

by marchmooner on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 04:15:38 PM EST
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by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:41:34 PM EST
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Well, you can ignore this but the Republican party won't. Obama would be smart to replace him IMMEDIATELY. It doesn't go along with his change platform.

I'm voting for Saxby Chambliss!

Thank you for your concern.

Next time, send someone who hasn't already made their allegiance to McCain explicitly clear.

by Jess81 on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:43:10 PM EST
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by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:46:27 PM EST
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Put up or shut up.

by grass on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:56:18 PM EST
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Put up what?

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:00:48 PM EST
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Where did I say I support McCain?

A troll by any other name... (none / 0)

...all of your posts trash Obama. Doesn't matter what you call yourself; your agenda's to tear down the nominee of the Democratic party. I hope those McCain points are worth it.

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:02:01 PM EST
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It's time for a wake-up call (none / 0)

I don't support Obama, I don't support McCain. The Democratic Party is doing a fine job of screwing themselves over.

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:15:09 PM EST
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Re: It's time for a wake-up call (none / 0)

Yeah those stupid voters.

by LiberalDebunker on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:20:02 PM EST
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sure, soyousay (none / 0)

You're "undecided."

by JoeW on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:35:54 PM EST
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Why thank you for your well intentions to the Senator regarding this situation. We better nip this in the bud before anyone tries to use this to creates a scandal.

Oh, wait, you already did.

by Massadonious on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:47:48 PM EST
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by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:52:01 PM EST
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If that were my intent, I wouldn't choose MyddObama. It is kind of fun to watch the "see no evil" reaction though.

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It is kind of fun to watch the "see no evil" reaction though.

I'm sure that's exactly why you signed up to McBlog.

by Massadonious on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:55:59 PM EST
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by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:58:12 PM EST
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Nope...can't stand McCain.

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You don't have to like the guy to collect your paycheck every two weeks.

Hell, if the pay is good, I might consider it if I didn't have....you know, morals.

by Massadonious on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:00:03 PM EST
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Pay me? Where do I sign up? (none / 0)

I've probably been a Democrat longer than you've been alive. FYI; Not all Democrats are Obama fans.

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:03:04 PM EST
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Re: Pay me? Where do I sign up? (none / 0)

I'm not saying that all Democrats are or should be Obama fans. But like it or not, he's our canidate, and parroting (potential) Fox News talking points on a site dedicating to electing....suprise....Democrats (FYI, Obama is one) doesn't really sit well with me.

But, you know, that's just me. I'll go back to listening to My Chemical Romance and texting my 1 million MySpace friends. That's what young people do, right?

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by Massadonious on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:10:32 PM EST
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can-di-date. just sayin'. (none / 0)

by aggieric on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 10:01:50 PM EST
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by grass on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:57:28 PM EST
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This is MyDDemocratic party.

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:58:47 PM EST
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Really...It's difficult for me to recognize anymore.

by grass on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:03:20 PM EST
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It's not very hard. This is the place where we try to get Democrats elected and talk about issues that concern us.

Now, I'm not precisely sure what this Jim Johnson is supposed to have done. He seems like somebody who is experienced in vetting vice presidents and has connections to the banking industry. Can you be a bit more explicit in your concern?

Would you rather somebody who didn't know how to vet candidates heading the VP search team?

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Here's how to tell the difference.

Look at the diary you just wrote....then delete it and write the exact opposite.

Voila!

by Massadonious on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:03:59 PM EST
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John McCain isn't evil. He's just wrong about a lot of things. Vote Obama!

I can just see the ad now....

Obama says that the bankruptcy crisis must be fixed. What he doesn't tell you is that one of the three people that helped him decide on a VP candidate was at one time connected to a company that was majorly effected by the bankruptcy crisis."

Compelling stuff. :P

by proseandpromise on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:48:03 PM EST
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I'm voting for Saxby Chambliss!

"Barack Obama. Wrong on selecting one of three members of his vice presidential exploratory committee. Wrong for America."

Folks, that's the election.

by Jess81 on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 05:29:40 PM EST
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You fight back (none / 0)

"You were worried about Jim Johnson? Well that's small peanuts compared to [list of McCain campaign advisors who are lobbyists]. Perhaps the Republicans shouldn't throw stones when they come out of their glass houses"

Our problem is we don't know how to respond.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 06:26:52 PM EST
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Re: You fight back (none / 0)

I'd prefer to retain the moral highground completely when it comes to aides with shady connections, which John McCain is neck deep in.

But this is nothing.

I'm voting for Saxby Chambliss!

by Jess81 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 05:26:12 AM EST
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The GOP would draw attention to their lobbyist laden candidate? Perhaps. But since this is merely a VP hunt and not a policy maker I'm not sure why it matters unless he suggests a Countrywide lobbyist for VP.

by LiberalDebunker on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:13:24 PM EST
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by Falsehood on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:36:49 PM EST

We'll see; it depends on the specifics of the loan, which could be innocuous or scandalous.

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:39:47 PM EST
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You're a realist.

Kevin Bacon must pay for this (2.00 / 1)

by libertyleft on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:38:13 PM EST

Re: VP advisor needs to go (2.00 / 1)

Who cares.

by Cheebs on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:44:15 PM EST

*yawn* (2.00 / 1)

by slinkerwink on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:44:17 PM EST

Re: *yawn* (none / 0)

Yeah, the McTrolls are slipping.

by JoeW on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:37:14 PM EST
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"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

I think you are correct. Would set a strong precedent to act now. With the Rezko accusations almost certain to be thrown around at some point, he needs to get anything involving real estate scandal as far away as possible.

by vcalzone on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:45:38 PM EST

I got this from mainstream media (none / 0)

I didn't pull this info out of my ass. :D

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:48:20 PM EST
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Yeah, god forbid anyone brings up Rezko, considering the number of times (zero) Senator Obama's name was mentioned during his trial.

by Massadonious on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:51:16 PM EST
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"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

No, the accusations are totally baseless. But it will still be something thrown around. Besides, not only is this in keeping with his stated policy, it also would draw strong distinctions between his and McCain's campaign, with Obama acting swiftly to make sure his campaign members don't have the kind of corrupt background that McCain's do. We're not talking spokesman for the Myanmar junta, but still. I think that they'll manage with another member on that VP selection committee.

by vcalzone on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:00:35 PM EST
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I think Dems can put an equal opportunity power broker like Rezko up against John McCain and his crooks any day.

by LiberalDebunker on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:14:25 PM EST
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by alyssa chaos on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:47:56 PM EST

it could prove to be a problem depending on what Jim Johnson's actual role in Fannie Mae consisted of. I have to do some research before I can come to a sound conclusion.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:15:18 PM EST
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Agreed. It doesn't sound like a big deal, but even still, it might keep things tidy to sever even those slight ties to Countrywide. On the other hand, he's trusted to pick a VP, I'd also be concerned with damaging those efforts by removing him.

John McCain is surprisingly bad for this country

Crap, I'm two away from Stalin. Damn you professor of my father's who was at Yalta and damn my own misfortune at meeting him many years later as a very young child! At least a small portion of the dirty communism that must have rubbed off on the professor when he met Stalin got on me, I just know it!

Better never run for public office with this stain on my record.

by minnesotaryan on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:49:47 PM EST

by alyssa chaos on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:53:24 PM EST
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its a shame. you had my vote, hands down.

and unfortunately (none / 0)

we're all probably six degrees from paris hilton's vagina.

http://www.cracked.com/article_16270_six -degrees-paris-hilton-global-reach-one-v agina.html

Visit us at TexasKAOS, where we're taking Texas back!

by annatopia on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:45:49 PM EST
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Re: and unfortunately (none / 0)

Ugh. Less than six.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 04:45:02 PM EST
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Paris Hilton's Vagina (2.00 / 1)

Would be the best band name ever.

Bush murders soldiers for profit. McCain wants to wet his beak.

by awobbly on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 05:02:26 PM EST
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by alyssa chaos on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:50:45 PM EST

He was the campaign manager for Walter Mondale's failed 1984 presidential bid and chaired the vice presidential selection process for the presidential campaign of John Kerry....executive officer of the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), the quasi-public organization that guarantees mortgages for millions of American homeowners. Previously, he was vice chairman of Fannie Mae (1990-1991) and a managing director with Lehman Brothers (1985-1990).

As of 2006, he is a vice chairman of the private banking firm Perseus LLC, a position he has held since 2001. He is also a board member at Goldman Sachs, Gannett Company, Inc., a media holding group, KB Home, a home construction firm, Target Corporation, Temple-Inland, and UnitedHealth Group.

--a true business man

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Jo hnson_%28businessman%29

[all hail WIKIPEDIA]

by Spanky on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:51:39 PM EST

Thanks for your concern if real, but I don't believe that the WSJ does not have all the facts. The WSJ is saying that Mr. Johnson got preferential treatment on his loans the same way that McBush, McSame got on his. The WSJ has no proof about Mr. Johnson. Maybe the WSJ should look into McBushes loans and see what kind of preferential treatment he got.

by Spanky on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 02:53:17 PM EST
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I meant that I don't believe that the WSJ have all the facts.

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

All the more reason to ask for the guy's resignation. Gives Obama a chance to point out that McCain took the dirty loans. Any chance we get to prove how McCain found loopholes in the system while making millions of dollars a year AND collecting disability checks is just fine with me.

by vcalzone on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:02:21 PM EST
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oh who cares (none / 0)

He didn't make the guy attorney general. He has no power over your life or mine. When he picks a VP you don't like, then you have a legitimate concern. Until then, there's little to complain about.

by Tenafly Viper on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:00:22 PM EST

Well (2.00 / 1)

he'll OBVIOUSLY pick a VP the diarist doesn't like, it won't be Hillary and Obama will still be the nominee, so no matter what happens, I expect complaining.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:10:38 PM EST
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Certainly, (none / 0)

but it's a bit premature all the same. Couldn't he at least wait until Obama actually does something wrong.

by Tenafly Viper on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 04:02:03 PM EST
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He is not like he is his economic advisor (none / 0)

This is just somebody helping with VP vetting.

Much DIFFERENT.

by puma on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:02:47 PM EST

No one gives a damn about this...... (2.00 / 2)

The last thing any voter who doesn't already hate Obama cares about is the histories of the VP selection team members. Please get out of the weeds and recognize this is not something anyone cares about. No one's vote is going to be moved by this.

by DCCyclone on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:03:42 PM EST

Re: No one gives a damn about this...... (none / 0)

It's certainly moved the McConcern trolls into action. Those are about the only people pushing this nonstory.

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:04:54 PM EST
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Re: No one gives a damn about this...... (none / 0)

Yes, and with expert analysis I see. They're getting a bit lazy.

by Tenafly Viper on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:06:52 PM EST
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MSNBC pushing story - KEEP UP! (none / 0)

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2 008/06/09/1124720.aspx

"VEEPSTAKES: VETTER NEEDS VETTING?"

The New York Sun highlights a weekend Wall Street Journal piece about embattled mortgage company, Countrywide and the relationship Obama veep vetter Jim Johnson had with the company's CEO -- a CEO Obama has criticized on the campaign trail. "On the campaign trail, Mr. Obama has criticized Countrywide's executives. `These are the people who are responsible for infecting the economy and helping to create a home foreclosure crisis. Two million people may end up losing their homes,' Mr. Obama said in March at a town hall meeting in Lancaster, Pa. The Chicago Tribune reported that the senator from Illinois `fumed' over a total of $19 million in bonuses set to be paid to Mr. Mozilo and the president of Countrywide, David Sambol. `They get a $19 million bonus while people are at risk of losing their home. What's wrong with this picture?' Mr. Obama asked." http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2 008/06/09/1124720.aspx

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:10:31 PM EST
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Re: MSNBC pushing story - KEEP UP! (none / 0)

Well of course they are. They're the Corporate Media.

That doesn't mean you have to suckle at their teat.

by LiberalDebunker on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:15:44 PM EST
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I don't live in La la land... (none / 0)

I'll keep it in mind that many on Mydd enjoy it there.

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:18:20 PM EST
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Re: I don't live in La la land... (none / 0)

What's la la land?

by LiberalDebunker on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:18:56 PM EST
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:D (none / 0)

La la land is where there's no evil...It's all good. Some refer to it as fantasy land

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:30:27 PM EST
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Re: :D (none / 0)

Doesn't seem like that's relevant to this matter.

by LiberalDebunker on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:35:05 PM EST
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Re: :D (none / 0)

Great!

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:45:30 PM EST
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Re: MSNBC pushing story - KEEP UP! (2.00 / 1)

So, I'm supposed to hate MSNBC for being sexist towards Hillary, yet I'm supposed to praise them for pushing this story.

I'm so confused!

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by Massadonious on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:17:08 PM EST
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Facts (none / 0)

Is the story true or false?

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:20:13 PM EST
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Re: Facts (2.00 / 1)

What story?

by LiberalDebunker on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:37:49 PM EST
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Re: MSNBC pushing story - KEEP UP! (none / 0)

Let's follow the logic here. The Countrywide CEO did bad things. Therefore everyone he ever knew, must therefore be disqualified for any public service positions.

That's the right wing smear machine at work. McCain's economic team is led by a person who singlehandedly dismantled the regulatory structures that would have prevented the mortgage meltdown. Hey that's great.

But Obama has a person who had a financial transaction with a Mortgage industry CEO, and therefore, Obama's campaign is in deep, deep yogurt.

It is kind of refreshing. If this is the best the wing nuts can come up with, then Obama is looking more and more like a winner every day.

by PatrickBradish on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 04:13:08 PM EST
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I'm sure (none / 0)

Hillary had some Countrywide connections in her campaign.

It's just that big of a company.

I'm not even going to bother to search for it and see because, quite frankly, it MEANS NOTHING

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 05:11:29 PM EST
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Who cares? (none / 0)

Seriously - like who gives a shit?

Caroline Kennedy is the daughter of President Kennedy and that means she's somehow not qualified to help Obama chose his VP? Are you for reals?

by HisRoyalHighness on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:06:37 PM EST

by JustJennifer on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:10:37 PM EST

Anyone even remotely satisfied with the fiasco that is/was Countrywide would make me nervous. JMO.

by JustJennifer on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:13:02 PM EST
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I didn't mean remotely satisfied, I meant remotely related. D'oh.

by jrsygrl on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:17:55 PM EST

Look a Democrat in office IS change. However, anyone who is buying the bill of goods that somehow Obama was a Washington DNC outsider seriously hasn't been paying attention to the objective facts. A party outsider would not have gotten the SDs to clinch a close race against a party insider, which is the meme people seem to keep pushing. It makes no sense to even think that is the case.

The establishment gave Sen. Clinton 100 delegate head start but it's true that no absolute outsider (meaning a person with no contacts at national level) would have much of a chance.

by LiberalDebunker on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:21:36 PM EST
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by jrsygrl on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:24:02 PM EST
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Repeat the race was extraordinarily close at best. If she was the insider the party could've easily swung the SDs in her favor. With a race that close there is no way an insider would lose.

Except they'd be going against the voters and politicians are pretty cowardly.

by LiberalDebunker on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:28:03 PM EST
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by jrsygrl on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:43:38 PM EST
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If you recall that is HIGHLY debatable.

Well you can debate anything but the candidate that won more contests and more delegates (in a delegate race) is the nominee and that's how it was supposed to work out.

by LiberalDebunker on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 04:10:22 PM EST
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by jrsygrl on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 05:00:55 PM EST
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Oh Good Lord the question of who had the majority of individual votes has been a subject of debate. You made it sound clear cut. Given how close that was, the party could have made a plausible case for quite some time to validate having the SD vote support whomever was the insider candidate. And indeed they made a case for who to support, all the while the alternative candidate was decried as the insider.

by jrsygrl on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 05:02:31 PM EST
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I'm starting to wonder about your SN...."Liberal Debunker" What is that supposed to mean?

*politicians and political insiders.

by LiberalDebunker on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:28:29 PM EST
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by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:24:33 PM EST

If Obama gets rid of Johnson, you'll be praising him for doing so....and so will I. :D

or, knowing you (2.00 / 1)

you'll complain he waited until it became a political issue before he got rid of him...point out that he's just like any politician, then find the next thing to complain about.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:31:44 PM EST
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Nope (none / 0)

I consider that a smart move. Obama's campaign is pretty good at nicking problems.

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:34:44 PM EST
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by JustJennifer on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:32:14 PM EST

Geesh, how hard is this to understand? Why risk even the sniff of a scandal here? Almost everyone has heard about the troubles with Countrywide. Frankly I wouldn't want anyone who was the friend of a friend of a friend at Countrywide anywhere near my campaign. Too risky.

I sense your concern (none / 0)

MSNBC tells me that Johnson is "no friend of the Clintons."

What better person to vet them? If there's even one problematic issue with the Clintons, I would want it discovered; as long as the guy doesn't lie, I'd rather have the harshest critic of someone digging for any potential October Surprises before they become said surprises.

That goes for all of the potential VPs. I hope that his vetting committee is downright vicious in digging for potential scandal; not to reveal, but to determine who should be VP.

It seems to me that the real reason that people are pushing to get this guy canned is because he won't softball the Clintons.

The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:32:53 PM EST

Re: I sense your concern (1.00 / 1)

MSNBC tells me that Johnson is "no friend of the Clintons."

So let me get this straight...You would rather keep a problem on because the problem doesn't like the Clintons???

Bahahahah!

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:38:11 PM EST
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I don't see him as a problem. (none / 0)

Seriously, what's the problem here? His work is going to be double-checked. He's not being given any actual deciding power, he's just going to be a research monkey. A high-profile research monkey, perhaps, but a research monkey all the same.

I want our VP candidate vetted by his or her harshest critic if possible... including candidates I like.

The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:46:53 PM EST
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Re: I don't see him as a problem. (none / 0)

Obama has the power to vet, turn down or hire anyone he wants. IMO, he doesn't need this guy; there's plenty of stuffed shirts out there that can do the job.

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:52:53 PM EST
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Yes, so what? (none / 0)

I don't see the problem in keeping him. If one stuffed shirt is as good as another, who cares if this guy is the one doing it or not? With no official power, even if he is corrupt, he can't do any ill without being fact-checked.

The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 04:10:54 PM EST
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Re: Yes, so what? (none / 0)

even if he is corrupt

So, you don't mind someone corrupt working for Obama?

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 04:15:40 PM EST
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Crimeny (2.00 / 1)

First off, we don't know if this guy is corrupt or not. He's got ties to a problematic organization.

Secondly, if he's given no official decisionmaking power, what does it matter if he has been shady (which has not been proven)?

Thirdly, innocent until proven guilty.

Finally, this is the strawiest of strawmen, and your motivations are pretty transparent.

The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 04:33:05 PM EST
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Re: Crimeny (none / 0)

strawiest <----FYI; there's no such word :D

by soyousay on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 08:05:13 PM EST
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Re: I sense your concern (2.00 / 1)

I don't care about how he feels about the Clintons. I am a Clinton supporter and I don't want her to be VP. I was just commenting on the fact that Countrywide, like it or not, has become synonymous with things like scandal, foreclosure, sub prime mortgage disaster... you get the picture. The media is bored now that Clinton has dropped out. Why give them something else to jump on when you don't have to?

by JustJennifer on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:42:06 PM EST
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Yes, but it's a smokescreen (2.00 / 1)

Johnson isn't actually being given any power. He's doing research. Everything he does will be double- and triple-checked. The media has no legs to stand on here.

This is a non-issue.

The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:48:12 PM EST
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"This victory alone is not the change we seek -- it is only the chance for us to make that change." -- Nov. 4, 2008

Why doesn't this diary explain why this advisor "needs to go," or discuss how this could be important, or what ways the campaign might deflect criticism, or whether the advisor's skills are invaluable enough that any potential storm should be weathered.

Because this just reads like a hit on the Obama campaign, with no substance supporting it.

by BobzCat on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 05:05:34 PM EST