Fear, Fear and more Fear.

(cross posted at Kickin it with CG and Clintonistas for Obama)

In case anyone was wondering what an exercise in fear-mongering looks like.  Here you go:

The above represents a billboard in Orange County, Florida. The local ABC News affiliate reports that the person responsible is a local musician "trying to help Republicans" but that "officials with both political parties are calling the billboard inappropriate."

Betcha we'll see more of this as we get closer to the GE.  Ya think?



Display:


some people are beyond.... (2.00 / 13)

disgusting.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:09:23 PM EST

I think that's the most ineloquent, (2.00 / 11)

blatant example of fear-mongering I've seen in... well, possibly ever.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:12:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

yeah. (2.00 / 6)

it would be funny if - well no - it would never be funny.  but at least the sign says 'please.'


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:17:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: yeah. (2.00 / 6)

I think the imagery, the wasted lives, and the failed and self defeating response to 9/11 actually subliminally plant another message

DON'T LET THOSE 3,000 LIVES REMAIN A POLITICAL TOOL
STOP VOTING REPUBLICAN

That BS worked in 2004 (only just) and now it smacks of desperation and shroud waving


by duende on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:57:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

True... (2.00 / 4)

And that ad's so disgusting, I simply don't know what else to say.


We shall overcome!
by atdleft on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:26:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

i know what you mean. (none / 0)

it took me an hour to write a 5 sentence diary.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:43:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: some people are beyond.... (2.00 / 3)

Did you go to the website?

That guy is creepy.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:25:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

talk about a controlled response. (none / 0)

creepy is being rather kind.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:42:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: some people are beyond.... (2.00 / 1)

especially since it happened on the watch of a repuke pretzeldunce and congress...


by zerosumgame on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 09:36:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (2.00 / 6)

It might be so over-the-top that it actually backfires.  And I forget, who was in office on that day?  Maybe it should stay up.

TheRepublicanSong.com - WTH.


by rfahey22 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:16:06 PM EST

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (none / 0)

I wouldn't go the "who was in office that day" route. A significant portion of the electorate gives Bush a pass on this because he wasn't in office long.

I'd much rather go the "who thought in '98 we shouldn't concentrate on Osama and instead go into Iraq?" route.

(Hint: he's running for President right now!)


by TCQuad on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:00:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (2.00 / 1)

just go intot eh whole part where dumbaya disbanded the CIA group concentrating on OBL and ignored the Aug briefing and little stuff like that.


by zerosumgame on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 09:39:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (2.00 / 4)

Thank you for posting this canadian gal. This is another fine example of the fear mongering we can expect throughout the campaign. We need to expose this shit the moment it is seen, and speak to the national debate, about how the republicans use war and terror as a means to winning elections.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:18:44 PM EST

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (2.00 / 2)

Other than Obama and every other Dem race winning, one thing I hope we get from this election is to free the American people from this stranglehold the GOP has on national security and terrorism.

I think Obama's talking points on Bush/McCain making our country "less safe" might be one his most powerful and awe inspiring statements.

those two words are a huge inditement on the administration and honestly to his credit, I never heard Dem leadership driving that point, and they should.
It's damn near impossible for Bush-lovers to argue against it.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:03:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I have my doubts (none / 0)

that'll ever happen. Talk to most Americans about national security and handling terrorism and they become downright fascist. Torture becomes ok, Guantanamo is a great idea, and warrantless wiretaps? eh, I have nothing to hide.

The only reason why we're even winning some people over is that there hasn't been an attack or an imminent threat of one in a while and people can think rationally now.

But if an attack occurs between now and November, say goodnight.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:37:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I have my doubts (none / 0)

And don't you think it is in bin Ladin's best interest to keeps the likes of John McCain in office. I mean where would bin Ladin be without his best buddy, gw bush?


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:52:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Sure it is (none / 0)

which is why I think we'll be attacked before the election.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 01:27:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Sure it is (none / 0)

Sadly, agreed.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 02:32:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (none / 0)

Agreed! I think there is a huge opening here, as there are right thinking Republicans and generals who think this war and the use of force in the region is insanity. Just last year as reported in the London Times on February 25, 2007,

<SOME of America's most senior military commanders are prepared to resign if the White House orders a military strike against Iran, according to highly placed defence and intelligence sources. (Snip) All the generals are perfectly clear that they don't have the military capacity to take Iran on in any meaningful fashion. Nobody wants to do it and it would be a matter of conscience for them. (snip) A generals' revolt on such a scale would be unprecedented. "American generals usually stay and fight until they get fired," said a Pentagon source. Robert Gates, the defence secretary, has repeatedly warned against striking Iran and is believed to represent the view of his senior commanders.>

This does give me hope that saner heads will prevail. I also found it very interesting that James Baker (yeah that James Baker) and Warren Christopher came out last week with bi-partision legislation to change the War Powers Act to limit the Executive's power to go to war. This needs to be adopted yesterday.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:50:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Unbelievable n/t (2.00 / 3)


by Neef on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:18:46 PM EST

They're not even getting warmed-up! (2.00 / 1)

This is nothing compared to what's ahead. Records in disgusting political advertising will be broken in coming weeks. Count on it.

This billboard is a like a STRETCH before the warm-ups!


by bobswern on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 11:31:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Romney pretty much (2.00 / 3)

expressed what was conveyed in that billboard in his "concession" speech at CIPAC.  Expect to hear this message if Romney is the veep (though he claims not to have been asked to submit vetting docs).


by Blazers Edge on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:20:23 PM EST

Re: Romney pretty much (2.00 / 2)

I pray he is every day, he took a 16 year streak of R governors and wiped that off the map real quick here. he was the most inneffectual, absentee governor in our history.


by Dog Chains on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:42:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

But his name is popular in MI (none / 0)

I think he's McCain's smartest choice actually.


by JJE on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:30:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (2.00 / 1)

This is obviously satire.  Here's 50 cents.  Go buy a sense of humor!!!!!!!!

NOW I'LL PUT IN ALL CAPS!!!

SNARK!!!!


by the mollusk on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:34:42 PM EST

sadly no. (2.00 / 2)

and it gets worse.



"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:43:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: sadly no. (2.00 / 3)

my comment really was snark.


by the mollusk on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:05:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Did that hack actually say: (2.00 / 1)

"Our consititution, nation 'n God are under attack"?

OK, lemme tell you how this works, buddy:

a/ The USA is a secular nation, we don't have ourselves "a God".  You have yours, good for you.

b/ Err, if there is a specific God who created the universe, I'm pretty sure that by the very definition of such a being you just simply cannot attack the fella.  Sure he will be just fine.

and, btw, work on those: lyric-writing, guitar-playing, video-producing and singing skills.  Garth fucking Brooks you are not.


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 10:58:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

that email you sent.... (none / 0)

was awesome.  could you please let me know if you get a response?


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 11:07:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: that email you sent.... (2.00 / 1)

Thanks.  will do


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 11:26:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: sadly no. (none / 0)

OMG. Is this getting any play on radio stations?


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:58:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You know (2.00 / 3)

I don't think any of us would dream of putting up a billboard showing a maimed vet, or a dead platoon of soldiers, with the "Don't vote GOP" caption.

I hate to generalize, but sometimes the Right just seems so damn amoral.


by Neef on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:41:16 PM EST

well put. n/t (2.00 / 1)


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:54:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Although I do wonder (2.00 / 2)

Why ever not?

Scores of flag-draped coffins would accentuate a "Don't Vote GOP" billboard better than anything else. Not the most tasteful, but it will take much more than good taste to stop the hordes of rampaging rogue elephants from running amok for another 4 years.


It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel
by Sumo Vita on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:29:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: You know (none / 0)

And you have noticed bushies ban on seeing the coffins at all. These fucks are the masters of perception manipulation.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 03:00:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (2.00 / 2)

Yeah, we all know this would never happen on anyone other than Obama's watch...oh wait


by Dog Chains on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:41:23 PM EST

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (2.00 / 3)

Absolutely disgusting ad, but is it really surprising?  The VP of the United States pretty much said the same thing in '04.

"It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on Nov. 2, we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we'll get hit again and we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States."

This billboard is just a visual representation of the sentiments expressed by our freakin vice president.


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:48:24 PM EST

my favourite youtube moment. (2.00 / 1)

are you getting a lot of that?



"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:58:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (2.00 / 1)

I don't see why the Democrats can't show footage of 9/11 and say "This happened under a REPUBLICAN President." They're such pussies, scared of what the media would say about it.


by Lakrosse on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:55:41 PM EST

precisely because they are democrats. (2.00 / 7)

and don't exploit human tragedy for political gain.  (at least i hope they don't).


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:00:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

exploiting 9/11 helps WIN elections. (2.00 / 1)

and we coulda done it in 2004 and possibly knocked Bush out of office. It woulda been worth it. We need to stop being so self righteous. Notice how the Republicans are not.


by Lakrosse on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:46:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I'm telling you (none / 0)

it would not have helped. Republicans would've shifted the blame to Clinton and it's hard to defend why Clinton didn't advance his search for Bin Laden after bombing Afghanistan. It's hard to defend that his intelligence was wrong after the USS Cole.

Exploiting 9/11 and blaming it on Bush only forces us to lay some blame on Clinton too. Bush isn't the only one with blood on his hands here. The last four Presidents share a little bit of the blame for it.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:04:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Not to mention that it's the truth. (none / 0)

It's not like we're not already hitting them hard over the war.


It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel
by Sumo Vita on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:31:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

But it means nothing (1.00 / 2)

WTC I, Khobar, the African embassy bombings, USS Cole all happened under Clinton. It's so easy for them to turn that argument against us. Bush was only in office eight months before 9/11. After the attacks, we discovered that intelligence were tracking these guys since 1999...when Clinton was President.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:06:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I'm sorry (2.00 / 2)

but when you parrot Republican talking points and try to blame the death of thousands on not only the only two term Dem since FDR, but on someone who actually went AFTER terror according to the 9/11 commission and Richard Clarke, you WILL get hide rated. 3000 did not die under Clinton's watch. Plus, 2004 wasn't about Clinton either.


by Lakrosse on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:16:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Calm yourself (none / 0)

I didn't BLAME Clinton, I simply said he will end up sharing the blame as well. I read the commission report, I read Richard Clarke's book. I'm glad Clinton went after Bin Laden but the fact of the matter, he did not succeed. It's not a Republican talking point to admit he did not succeed. It's best we don't rehash that argument now. That's how it will be spun and it's not entirely false.

It doesn't matter whose watch it happened under because the seeds of 9/11 have been planted by every government since 1979. Clinton does not get off scott free because he was first two term President since FDR, who btw did nothing to stop Pearl Harbor from happening despite having every hint that the Japanese were going to strike American interests in the Pacific.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:23:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Calm yourself (none / 0)

If I remember correctly, Clinton did try to go after bin Ladin and Iraq (for dissing the inspectors), and all we heard about was the "Wag the Dog" bullshit. Oh and they impeached him for total nonsense during this time, which helped to almost nuetralize him. Oh and we had a republican House of Representatives. What the fuck do you think Obama would be able to do under similar circumstances? I hope we never find out. Hell, it's going to be hard enough for Obama to work with the Democrats we have, as they have almost completely bought into the republican world view.

Now I am not saying that Clinton, or FDR, or any President has not done some sleazy shit in the name of protection our country, and we should never allow any President unlimited powers in national security, but I am quite certain that we would have dealt with all of this differently under a Gore Presidency. The three biggest differences would be no war in Iraq, a much bigger coalition in Afganistan (hopefully led by nations in the region), and an energy policy that would have thinking of the future, rather than playing catch up under the worst economic catastropy in the past 79 years.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 03:25:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: But it means nothing (none / 0)

Uprated because comment is not worthy of HR.


by Kysen on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:12:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Because that (2.00 / 2)

would be a disgusting use of tragedy for political gain.

I'd question my support for any Democrat who did that.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:43:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]

what about winning elections? (2.00 / 2)

because if we had pointed this out when Bush was running in 04, perhaps we coulda taken off his shroud of being "tough" on security and John Kerry woulda be President today, and the last  years may not have happened like they have.


by Lakrosse on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:45:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

It wouldn't work (1.00 / 1)

9/11 was not entirely Bush's fault. He shared the blame, but IMO so did Clinton, and Reagan for funding the crazies to begin with. Clinton should have went after him after the African embassy bombings. The fact that we didn't pay attention to the guy until he got us at home pisses me off. It pisses me off that Bush didn't take the threat seriously and it pisses me off that Clinton didn't see the treat, especially after Bojinka, which his administration should be credited for stopping.

To use that tragedy to try to further political ambitions is bad enough, but to use it in a context that's not entirely true is crossing the line.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:01:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

talk about Republican talking points (2.00 / 1)

Clinton DID go after them after the embassy bombings. You may wanna read the 9/11 Commission report and Richard Clarke's "Against All Enemies." Take your GOP talking points and lies to Free Republican.


by Lakrosse on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:14:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Yes I did say that (1.00 / 1)

I did acknowledge that he went after him after the embassy bombings, but then he missed and then what? He forgot about it.

I'm sorry but when Bin Laden killed one American, that should have been it. I appreciate that Clinton made the attempt, but I really think if he had kept trying, he would've gotten him, 9/11 never would've happen and Bush wouldn't be President today.

You blame 9/11 on Bush and Clinton will get blamed for not striking and cutting off Al-Qaeda beforehand. The fact of the matter is Al-Qaeda still flourished after the embassy bombings and whether or not it was Clinton's fault, he'll get some of the blame for it.

It's counterproductive.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:20:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

your Clinton-hatred (none / 0)

has always been noted here. He did not fucking "forget" about the embassy bombings. He kept trying till the end of his Presidency to get the terrorists. Of course we know the GOP would try to pin it on him, of course they would, but it would not make it valid. Go back to Free Republican you Republican Clinton-hating piece of trash.


by Lakrosse on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 09:47:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: It wouldn't work (2.00 / 3)

Excuse me, he did go after Osama, but the Republicans accused him of wagging the dog (this was while the Lewinsky scandal was going on) and refused to support him.
You may want to read up on what actually happened.
So yes, it actually was Bush's fault.
"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:23:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I see (none / 0)

so what you're saying is the Republican Congress tied President Clinton down?

I know what happened and what happened was EVERYBODY shares the blame for it. It is NOT ENTIRELY Bush's fault, sorry.

You blame Bush, the blame gets spread around to Clinton, his cabinet, Gingrich, Reagan, Carter and so on.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:26:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Evidently not (2.00 / 2)

August 20, 1998- President Clinton has defended his decision to order attacks against targets in Sudan and Afghanistan, but the countries concerned have reacted with anger.

 Speaking hours after attacks were launched in retaliation for the US embassy bombings which killed 250 people, Mr Clinton said the US was taking a stand against terror organisations who "wrap murder in the cloak of righteousness".

Mr Clinton said that there was "compelling evidence that further attacks were planned by a network of Islamist terrorists."

"Our target was terror, our motive was clear," he said.

SNIP

Reaction in the US itself was split between politicians backing the president and those suggesting that the timing might have been related to Mr Clinton's continuing problems in the Monica Lewinsky affair.

Bin Laden blamed

In his address, Mr Clinton named exiled Saudi Arabian dissident Osama bin Laden as the mastermind behind the embassy bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam.

"There is convincing information from our intelligence community that bin Laden's terrorist network was responsible for these (embassy) bombings," Mr Clinton said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/155252 .stm

Washington, D.C., February 10, 2005 - The National Security Archive today posted the widely-debated, but previously unavailable, January 25, 2001, memo from counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke to national security advisor Condoleezza Rice - the first terrorism strategy paper of the Bush administration. The document was central to debates in the 9/11 hearings over the Bush administration's policies and actions on terrorism before September 11, 2001. Clarke's memo requests an immediate meeting of the National Security Council's Principals Committee to discuss broad strategies for combating al-Qaeda by giving counterterrorism aid to the Northern Alliance and Uzbekistan, expanding the counterterrorism budget and responding to the U.S.S. Cole attack. Despite Clarke's request, there was no Principals Committee meeting on al-Qaeda until September 4, 2001.

The January 25, 2001, memo, recently released to the National Security Archive by the National Security Council, bears a declassification stamp of April 7, 2004, one day prior to Rice's testimony before the 9/11 Commission on April 8, 2004. Responding to claims that she ignored the al-Qaeda threat before September 11, Rice stated in a March 22, 2004 Washington Post op-ed, "No al Qaeda plan was turned over to the new administration."

Two days after Rice's March 22 op-ed, Clarke told the 9/11 Commission, "there's a lot of debate about whether it's a plan or a strategy or a series of options -- but all of the things we recommended back in January were those things on the table in September. They were done. They were done after September 11th. They were all done. I didn't really understand why they couldn't have been done in February."

Also attached to the original Clarke memo are two Clinton-era documents relating to al-Qaeda. The first, "Tab A December 2000 Paper: Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Networks of al-Qida: Status and Prospects," was released to the National Security Archive along with the Clarke memo. "Tab B, September 1998 Paper: Pol-Mil Plan for al-Qida," also known as the Delenda Plan, was attached to the original memo, but was not released to the Archive and remains under request with the National Security Council.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAE BB147/index.htm

Want to try that again?


"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:30:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

How is that any different (2.00 / 2)

from those personal tragedy stories that all pols happily relate in support of their candidacies - you know, those that they've picked up from their wanderings through the heartland?

Meanwhile 9/11 is the issue over which we supposedly invaded Iraq, signed off on torture, authorized warrantless wiretapping - all issues we're hitting the GOP on. It hasn't just recently been politicized - it's been floodlit, center stage, for the past 7 years.

It's high time we started telling it like it is.


It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel
by Sumo Vita on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:43:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (2.00 / 4)

Howard Dean was just on MSNBC and hit it out of the park regarding that disgraceful billboard.

Click here for the video of the good doctor.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:17:23 PM EST

Wait, what? (2.00 / 4)

McCain voted against Head Start? He voted AGAINST little kids preschool programs!? ::google google::

Oh yeah-
http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/0 7/14/mccain-hispanics-schools/

Against Head Start, Pell Grants, community colleges...dear god. This guy is an absolute caricature of a GOP pol. Let's keep the populace poor, stupid and frightened. I'm speechless.


by Neef on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:33:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

This reminded me of Martin Sheen reciting Tagore's (2.00 / 3)

following poem..

Where The Mind is Without Fear

Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high;
Where knowledge is free;
Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow domestic walls;
Where words come out from the depth of truth;
Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection;
Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the dreary desert sand of dead habit;
Where the mind is led forward by thee into ever-widening thought
    and action--
Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake.


by louisprandtl on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:26:16 PM EST

Hey CG (2.00 / 2)

off topic, but did you see the segments on MSNBC talking about HRC's new do?  The network really is obsessed with her.


by Blazers Edge on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:53:53 PM EST

nah - just got in. (none / 0)

got a youtube?


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:39:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: nah - just got in. (2.00 / 1)

chchcheck it out


by alyssa chaos on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:44:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

oh my dear lord. (none / 0)

what's it called when you jumped the shark times 1,000,000?


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:59:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: oh my dear lord. (2.00 / 1)

a McShame?-

[its too bad all they could talk about was her hair. she gave an awesome speech on medicare and LBJ; apperently it didn't meet the high standards of newsworthy; bah.]


by alyssa chaos on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 09:14:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (2.00 / 1)

shit son! that is totally tasteless-


by alyssa chaos on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:55:14 PM EST

This is the most cogent argument they can (2.00 / 1)

put forward...

Maybe a better one would be a headshot of McCain looking really intense with the subtext:

"I Like Peas"


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:19:12 PM EST

Holy FUCK! (2.00 / 3)

I just realized what that fucking picture is.

Hmmmm.... maybe I can drive down there and beat the living christ out of this guy.  What a fuckwad!


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:21:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (2.00 / 2)

This is all you got, you punk ass Republic Loser!

My goodness, I was expecting some kind of effort, instead of this lame sh*t.

And, Musician? No, John Coltrane was a musician, this guy is some cover-band hack with a mullet, playing Doobie Brothers and Lynard Skynard tunes in some bad Orlando bar on a Thursday night.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:35:26 PM EST

i think your assessment..... (none / 0)

is rather kind to a douche who would produce something like this.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:51:14 PM EST
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Re: Fear, Fear and more Fear. (2.00 / 3)

Oh, you guys, you're missing the fun part of all this- the MUSIC, man!!
It's the WORST song you will ever hear. Take a gander at some of the witty lyrics:

"They want to take the money from the hard workin' man, and give it to the lazy folks that don't give a damn," Meehan sings.

Another verse takes on the oil issue.

"We're not fightin' for oil, we got plenty if we drill it," he sings.

The song's not a moneymaker, he said, just an effort to recoup some of what he's invested in the billboards.

A copy of the song on CD cost $5 on the Web site, and the site points out that Meehan can be hired to perform at a "concert, party, meeting or event."

He's just an ignorant southern redneck. There's a LOT of them in Florida, unfortunately.

I will enjoy watching his head spin when Obama wins the election.


"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:37:01 PM EST

If history is any guide, (none / 0)

we should be seeing a few terror alerts and maybe even a new Osama bin Laden video any time now.


by georgiapeach on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 12:37:01 PM EST


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